tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post6102487724954442083..comments2024-03-24T11:22:15.548+00:00Comments on Lustig's Letter: Why Cameron will get it all wrong on the EURobin Lustighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00578195216460807588noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-77919941901315110852013-01-13T12:47:03.586+00:002013-01-13T12:47:03.586+00:00The only quivering I have is on this question:
How...The only quivering I have is on this question:<br />How much will David Cameron manage to bog down the work of the EU with his injection of British pomposity?<br /><br />Apparently, number who would vote for outright withdrawal has dropped from 37% to 33%, while the number who would oppose such a move rose to 42%. The pressure is seeming to come from international partners (US, Germany and Ireland) that have made it clear they oppose a British exit as isolating & damaging - economically & diplomatically.<br /><br />Is Cameron's obstinacy based on the fact that Eurosceptics in Tory party helped to bring down the Conservatives' last two PMs, Margaret Thatcher & John Major? Is he leery, or does he simply not know that times have changed?<br /><br />As for your circled-tier proposition, I think it's important for all members of the Eurozone to comply with: banking union, common taxation policies, & single currency. In other words, I do not support the position taken by Sweden, Denmark and the UK. Therefore, by the time I get to the fourth circle e.g. Norway, Switzerland & Iceland. I have lost sight of Britain entirely because this is a tier on which she simply does not belong.<br /><br />This statement of yours grabs me most - EU should: "genuinely represent the will of the people who live in it, rather than the conviction of Europe's political elites that they know best". I'm afraid the best I can respond is that the current elites may be the wrong elites, but are they not democratically elected? What happens when these elites peg & nail their country into the wrong tier (which can't happen if it is all a single tier)? <br />I truly believe that the attempt to introduce a tiered system would cause such utter confusion that we would not, could not, see democracy in action, but rather the return of Bedlam.Gaye Berryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03881763124748309634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-16446368979670347642013-01-10T23:37:58.048+00:002013-01-10T23:37:58.048+00:00The British foot-stamping began when the Berlin Wa...The British foot-stamping began when the Berlin Wall fell --since then there has been sulking and spoiled child tactics. <br /><br />While America is again worried about having two telephone numbers for Europe, --<br /><br />"the Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski, told a British audience last year: "Please don't expect us to help you wreck or paralyse the EU." <br /><br />If ´push comes to shove´hostility towards Britain will increase especially if the British government and a majority if Britons continue to ignore the famous Kennedy remark- (slightly altered)<br /><br /> ´Ask not what you can do for Europe --but what Europe can do for you´<br /><br />-- an obvious sign of UK ´maturity´and ignorance of European reality-<br /><br />"Things just ain´t what they used to be".quietoaktreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-16036525377465533462013-01-06T23:55:05.501+00:002013-01-06T23:55:05.501+00:00`An unelected Head of State (and family), an unele...`An unelected Head of State (and family), an unelected House of Lords and an elected government whose sole aim (oath) is to work for the benefit of the unelected Head of State (and family).´<br /><br />The conflict of interest accusations by an EU and its citizens against the British system of government is unavoidable --and has been shown.<br /><br />´Royal Family granted new right of secrecy<br />Special exemptions to be written into Freedom of Information Act.´<br /><br />http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/royal-family-granted-new-right-of-secrecy-2179148.html<br /><br />´A spokesman for Buckingham Palace said that the change to the law was necessary because the Freedom of Information Act had failed to protect the constitutional position of the monarch and the heir to the throne. He explained that the sovereign has the right and duty to be consulted, to encourage and warn the government, and by extension, the heir to the throne had the constitutional right and duty to prepare himself for the role of King.`<br /><br />-- Without full declaration of ALL Royal wealth and properties both in Britain and abroad (also in present ex-colonies etc.) the necessary transparency for EU Heads of State (especially un-elected) becomes farcical. <br /><br />-- Having heard rumors that Prince Charles owns property in North Cyprus and the late Queen mother owned property in Barbados -- the plot thickens as...<br /><br /> `A letter exchange revealed a tussle over who has control of £2.5m gained from the sale of Kensington Palace land. Ministers said it belonged to the state, while Buckingham Palace said it belonged to the Queen`quietoaktreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-29137639658577998492013-01-06T20:50:00.951+00:002013-01-06T20:50:00.951+00:00quietoaktree: I'm afraid there is no live link...quietoaktree: I'm afraid there is no live link facility on this blogging software. You could try leaving comments on my Huffington Post blog if you prefer.Robin Lustighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00578195216460807588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-33890306885411213132013-01-06T16:27:03.043+00:002013-01-06T16:27:03.043+00:00Mr Lustig,
My future argumentations require ´Link...Mr Lustig,<br /><br />My future argumentations require ´Links´--is there any possibility that they appear ´Live´ (active) ?.<br /><br />It is (as often) unlikely that any posted ´Links´ are clicked and read --but is this restriction necessary ?quietoaktreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-2733383668238000632013-01-05T19:35:44.663+00:002013-01-05T19:35:44.663+00:00My small business is quite dependant on trading wi...My small business is quite dependant on trading with Germany, we get on well, have a similar work ethic and beliefs, I suspect a lot of the Tories view is to appeal to those who dont trade with Europe, it works, it is good for UK plcIan Flemingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-41546338649275759042013-01-04T22:28:07.962+00:002013-01-04T22:28:07.962+00:00Whether ´concentric circles´or ´tiers´are used to ...Whether ´concentric circles´or ´tiers´are used to determine the British place within Europe, Britain brings a baggage of even more un-democratic principles than the EU can handle.<br /><br />An unelected Head of State (and family), an unelected House of Lords and an elected government whose sole aim (oath) is to work for the benefit of the unelected Head of State (and family).<br /><br />The acceptance of different Rights and responsibilities of EU citizens makes a farce of the whole European ideal and of its citizenship. Cameron (and others) wish undeserved ´equality´--he wants sovereignty to mean ´SOVEREIGNty´ By using any logic the price is too high for Europe to accept --and it should not.<br /><br />All EU citizens with EU passports must be equal before the Law and this will not occur (does not) with even more British opt-outs. <br /><br />British citizens and citizens of other countries not in the EU ´core´should not be considered EU citizens --this would at least bring clarity and give EU citizens the knowledge they have ´equal Rights´in all EU member states.<br /><br />British governments knew what they signed and it is clear their intentions were dishonest --and still are.<br /><br /> http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp2000/rp00-017.pdf<br /><br /> http://www.harvard-digital.co.uk/euro/pamphlet.htm <br /><br /> http://www2.lse.ac.uk/library/archive/foyle_foundation/conservative_anti_common_market_pamphlet.JPG <br /><br /> http://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/pdf/the_eu_for_me_web.pdfquietoaktreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-10310741691230409102013-01-04T15:35:28.386+00:002013-01-04T15:35:28.386+00:00Do you really think more than 45% of population wi...Do you really think more than 45% of population will even bother voting? As was shown by Irelands vote, we will keep returning until we vote the way the EU wants.Hillynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6942478546968158905.post-65217768230179920732013-01-04T11:26:49.080+00:002013-01-04T11:26:49.080+00:00Unfortunately I have a lot of trouble persuading t...Unfortunately I have a lot of trouble persuading those around me that the sham of our democracy is summed up by that comment "But the voters would be wrong".<br /><br />When referring to the EU that phrase transforms into the infamously overused "mistake" that voters in some countries are prone to.<br /><br />Cameron will not allow a mistake. The EU will only change its form following rebellion prompted by European or world financial collapse.Kit Greennoreply@blogger.com